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chase_acow ([personal profile] chase_acow) wrote in [community profile] disneyplusshows2021-03-26 03:10 pm

Falcon and Winter Soldier episode 2!

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The Star Spangled Man - John Walker is named Captain America, and Sam Wilson and Bucky Barnes team up against the rebel group, the Flag Smashers.


Poll #25458 The Star Spangled Man!
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 23


do you also get excited when there's a marching band on your TV?

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YES!
10 (45.5%)

No?
12 (54.5%)

favorite minor character moment:

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That Flag Smasher smashing Bucky's face.
0 (0.0%)

John Walker to the . . . rescue?
1 (4.5%)

I'm Battlestar.
0 (0.0%)

Flag Smashers get a homecoming.
1 (4.5%)

Isaiah Bradley's everything.
16 (72.7%)

The therapist strikes again.
11 (50.0%)

The Flag Smasher sacrificing himself for the group.
4 (18.2%)

RIP Redwing

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Bucky actually WAS sorry about Redwing.
5 (22.7%)

Bucky definitely was NOT sorry about Redwing.
17 (77.3%)

How much did Bucky break your heart this week?

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Mean: 7.30 Median: 8 Std. Dev 2.74
1
1 (4.3%)
2
0 (0.0%)
3
4 (17.4%)
4
0 (0.0%)
5
0 (0.0%)
6
1 (4.3%)
7
2 (8.7%)
8
7 (30.4%)
9
1 (4.3%)
10
7 (30.4%)

Current positive feelings about Flag Smashers?

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Mean: 5.78 Median: 6 Std. Dev 2.59
1
2 (8.7%)
2
2 (8.7%)
3
0 (0.0%)
4
2 (8.7%)
5
4 (17.4%)
6
4 (17.4%)
7
3 (13.0%)
8
2 (8.7%)
9
2 (8.7%)
10
2 (8.7%)

Current positive feelings about John Walker?

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Mean: 2.70 Median: 2 Std. Dev 1.43
1
6 (26.1%)
2
6 (26.1%)
3
4 (17.4%)
4
3 (13.0%)
5
4 (17.4%)
6
0 (0.0%)
7
0 (0.0%)
8
0 (0.0%)
9
0 (0.0%)
10
0 (0.0%)





So I don't know if I missed something, but why are the Flag Smashers considered terrorists? Have they hurt people or is it based on the fact they busted up a bank and are disrupting supply lines? Do you think they are the villains in this story or are we being set up for a bait and switch?

The framing they've chosen to give John Walker does present some wrinkles in his character. He's not a Bad Guy . . . probably. I am still curious about whether they asked Sam to be Captain America or not.

That scene with the cops stopping Sam and Bucky was shot interestingly. The way they stopped their car was aggressive, but then they didn't have their hands on their weapons as they walked up. Their belts weren't that realistic, so I'm not sure whether to credit the cops' motivation or the studio being sloppy. Sam's face though. That was a tough scene.

Buzzfeed Quiz: You're Either Bucky Barnes Or Sam Wilson — There's No In Between

Please react, question, discuss, and capslock in the comments. Play nice and be aware that not everyone wants spoilers for future episodes or have read/watched the same articles and interviews.
goodbyebird: Captain America 2: A grungy Winter Soldier wearing his mask, "Who the hell is Bucky?" (Avengers man on the bridge)

[personal profile] goodbyebird 2021-03-27 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
John Walker is extremely abrasive. Do not like. Also very relaxed around Bucky? Like, having been briefed on his history, his strength and skills, and a friggin bionic Wakandan arm? I'd tread softly while wearing his dead best friend's persona, and most certainly wouldn't be calling him Bucky. Learn some tact, pal.

I really wanted Sam to bring up how he donated the shield for Cap's exhibit, not so somebody else could romp around with it. At least he got to very much reject hanging around to help solidify Walker's image. Ugh.

Very much continuing the trend of having a ridiculous tv psychiatrist.

Really hope we return to Isaiah at some point. And I loved how Sam got to react to a black superhero just being swept under the rug. They do seem to be tackling race somewhat in this show, thumbs up there, but I'll still be bracing for a misstep until the show is over 🤷🏻‍♀️
Edited 2021-03-27 18:48 (UTC)
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[personal profile] jeliza 2021-03-28 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
The showrunner (Malcolm Spellman) has confirmed in many interviews that racism is one of the two big themes in FATWS so I'd think we have to *have* more Isaiah to do that sensibly. Plus from an overall franchise perspective, they've already set up 5 of the Young Avengers elsewhere, so I assume Eli will get at least some more screen time with him since he becomes Patriot.