Falcon and Winter Soldier episode 4!

[chase_acow]

The Whole World is Watching - John Walker loses patience with Sam and Bucky as they learn more about Karli Morgenthau.

Poll #25526 The Whole World is Watching!

Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 18

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Immediate post episode reaction?

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shit
2 (11.8%)

holy shit
5 (29.4%)

holy forking shirt balls
10 (58.8%)

favorite moments?

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Flashback Bucky in Wakanda.
17 (94.4%)

Sam using his counseling skills.
14 (77.8%)

Walker pocketing the serum.
0 (0.0%)

Dora Milaje smacking down John Walker.
14 (77.8%)

Bucky's arm falling off.
4 (22.2%)

Karli calling Sarah.
1 (5.6%)

Flag Smasher fight.
1 (5.6%)

Hoskins' death.
1 (5.6%)

Walker murdering that dude.
1 (5.6%)

the bloody shield
8 (44.4%)

is it time to talk about Sam and his wings?

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he's clearly a technopath
3 (18.8%)

he's half bird. on his dad's side.
4 (25.0%)

idk how he does it, I just want more of it
11 (68.8%)

I want some wings!
1 (6.2%)

Current positive feels for the Flag Smashers?

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Mean: 5.35 Median: 5 Std. Dev 2.40

1		1 (5.9%)
2		1 (5.9%)
3		2 (11.8%)
4		2 (11.8%)
5		4 (23.5%)
6		2 (11.8%)
7		1 (5.9%)
8		2 (11.8%)
9		1 (5.9%)
10		1 (5.9%)

How awesome is this next Walker v Sam/Bucky going to be?

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Mean: 8.65 Median: 9 Std. Dev 1.85

1		0 (0.0%)
2		0 (0.0%)
3		1 (5.9%)
4		0 (0.0%)
5		0 (0.0%)
6		1 (5.9%)
7		1 (5.9%)
8		3 (17.6%)
9		3 (17.6%)
10		8 (47.1%)

Would you take the serum?

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yes
3 (16.7%)

no
15 (83.3%)

Who wants some fan-art recs?
Sam and his suit from ep 3!
Sam and Bucky in the flowers again
Sarah Wilson
The difference between a sorcerer and a wizard
Zemo and Bucky

Please react, question, discuss, and capslock in the comments. Play nice and be aware that not everyone wants spoilers for future episodes or have read/watched the same articles and interviews.

Comments

[chase_acow]

I figured fanart would a good way to get a lot of different content. I can't really do fic recs because I only read Sam/Bucky here. : )

Zemo is a canny monster and I am excited to see what else he gets up to. I respect that neither Sam or Bucky get physical with a man who is technically their prisoner, but watching Bucky finally lose his patience and fling that cup was great. I like that he's smart and his machinations seem to be paying off a lot better than in CW, but I also want Sam and Bucky to get the last laugh as he gets carted off to a Wakandan prison because of them.

Re. Lemar Hoskins I saw someone on tumblr talking about the dead Black sidekick trope and wonder about the show leaning into it. I don't know near enough to have real opinions about subverting it or playing it straight here, but it does make me pause a little. He actually wasn't a bad guy but this cycle of vengeance is gonna be rough.

Sam's hero moment happening as he just relates to another human being in pain when no one else could see was a great alternative to anything we've seen Walker or Steve do, and I too love him so much. I love what they're doing with Sam characterization, I really enjoyed the comics version of Sam and I'm glad that Mackie is getting so much to work with.

[fueschgast]

I respect that neither Sam or Bucky get physical with a man who is technically their prisoner
Whoa, that didn't occur to me!

The trope is another reason why I didn't expect Lemar to be killed off.