Episode Discussion -- WandaVision 1.7: Breaking The Fourth Wall

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WandaVision
Episode 1x7: Breaking the Fourth Wall

expect serious spoilers for wandavision up to 1.7 and all mcu content currently released.

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Apologies for the wonky formatting! I did this on my phone, whoops. Next post will be prettier.

[fueschgast]

I love that you made the headline look like the logo of this episode, hee.

It's so weird to see Wanda so aware!

I was wondering why we haven't seen Vision yet, but I didn't expect that Wanda had just left him lying there! WTF, she just went home after expanding the hex and didn't even check on him?!

And there's my answer to what Darcy changed into. Escape artist, hahaha, I love it! I also love her outfit.
That whistling sound in the background after Vision asks her "You don't remember me from last night?"! XD

It hurts seeing Wanda try to turn her kids again Pietro. Because I still want him to be an actual person, specifinally X-Men's Peter.
I do love the Minimoffs' alarmed faces though when Wanda tells them that she doesn't have all the answers.
"Vision is made of Vibranium, they literally inherited tough skin." HA!

Looks like Wanda has trouble sustaining the bigger hex. Can't she just collect Vision and then shrink the hex again?

I take it the point of the Nexus commercial is to confirm the multiverse, right?

That poor space rover! I wonder how much money was trashed with it. But Monica gets through the suprisingly thick barrier fine. Improved even! Ooh, she can see magnetic fields now?

Where did the Minimoffs go? Agnes and her place give off supercreepy vibes, but maybe it's just a misunderstanding. Yeah, I don't know why I desperately want everyone to be good. But as far as I understand, comics!Agatha isn't a baddie, so I hope she wouldn'd be one here.
So did Agatha bring Peter from another dimension or is he not real at all? Apparently comics!Agatha can reach across dimensions, so it would make sense if WandaVision!Agatha had just picked a real Peter from another reality.

And he's still there! I feared Wanda - in addition to throwing him across the town square - might somehow have cast him back into his own dimension for that comment about killing Vision twice.

[kerithwyn]

OMG OMG OMG STILL FLAILING

MORE LATER

except I need a WV icon, stat

[shadowhive]

I usually don’t watch the ep until later in the weekend but I watched it at lunch today and 😮 I’d been suspicious of Agnes, but after seeing her in the car last ep I’d wrote them off but I knew something was wrong the second she went up to Wanda.

I hope her kids are ok, that must be so scary to find them gone (and then realising who she left them with).

I really hope Pietro stays around but with Agatha controlling him...

[merridia]

I'm so glad I never wavered in my convictions that Agnes was the big bad after last week's little performance. So satisfying, and such a catchy tune.

[skytintedwater]

I knew something was suspicious with Agnes but it never occurred to me she could be the Big Bad, even after I was sure she killed Sparky.

And can I mention how FINE Darcy looked in her outfit! More of that in the next episode, please XD

[monicawoe]

Such an interesting ep. There'd been theories about Agnes being Agatha Harkness for a while and while the comics nerd part of me is excited that is the case (also those redux credits were just fabulous!), I'm a wee bit disappointed because I feel like narratively speaking it would've been a stronger story to just have Westview be a result of Wanda's grief. Though I suppose we have yet to find out what exactly Agatha did. I'd argue she's mainly benevolent in the comics canon so possibly she's trying to help protect Wanda more than anything else.
I'm also SO excited about Monica getting her powers finally! All her sequences were badass and I love that she's still trying to reach Wanda and figure out what exactly is going on.

[jeliza]

I'm wondering if the original rumors about the guy playing Pietro actually being cast as Mephisto are still accurate -- he could be taking that form to do the whole Minimoffs soul shards thing and maybe the fact that they were able to get actual Sony!Pietro was just lucky stunt casting? [Especially since they can't use the words Mutant or X-Men until Sony gives it up.] Given his "dead husband" and "snooper" lines it seems like he has consciousness and agency.

If the twins are all the way gone I am going to be SO MAD because I want my Young Avengers, and we know for sure we are getting Kate and America, and some of the teaser for Falcon and the Winter Solider implies that maybe we could get the Eli Bradley backstory and therefore Patriot.

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What a fun episode!

I've really been enjoying the pastiche of different TV trends per episode. A lot of them have been lost on me (I never saw Malcolm and the Middle, for example, so I didn't realise Billy and Tommy narrating was a homage) but talking heads and camera cutaways - that's my jam.

I have no idea what Nexus is a reference to, can anyone clarify for me?

Agnes was kind of telegraphed but I love the execution of it. It's hard to be terribly surprised because you don't get Kathryn Hahn and not use her, she's too brilliant to be wasted. And Agatha + Harkness = Agnes... Yeah. But the song, the perfect use of facial expressions and a witch's cackle, the brief glimpse of her "canon" outfit - I was delighted.

All that said, I'm not sure she's the ultimate antagonist. There's the implication that she has her own camera system, i.e. what we see during the Agatha All Along song (credits?) - the metaphysical cameras pull back on pre-established shots for new context. My very tentative theory is that WandaVision is not the only TV show the Westview anomaly is creating. Agatha is impervious to Wanda's control and is manipulating the situation for goals unknown, but we don't know if she can leave the Hex, because we've never seen her do it. Maybe she's the star of her own Westview "program" that has been running alongside the in-universe version of WandaVision. I'm very interested to see what happens next.

I read a potential theory somewhere that posited Dottie is Emma Frost. I think it's unlikely, but wouldn't that be awesome? Bring Emma Caulfield back! Using Mephisto as a red herring when - surprise, it was the Hellfire Club the whole time! - I'd be so happy.

Also, any theories on who in Westview is in witness protection? I thought WP was handled by state troopers, not the FBI, but I am neither a law enforcement professional nor American, so I could be wrong.

[fueschgast]

I don't know why I'm obsessing about this, but can someone help me with geometry anyway? I've been looking through Wikipedia for polyhedra, but so far I haven't found what I imagine the Hex's 3D shape is.

I had expected it to be symmetrical in all 3 dimensions, but from what we've seen in this episode it seems to be only in 2. We know it has a equator made up of 6 hexagons that stand on their points. These points would connect to the points of the bottom/lid hexagons respectively. So between the equator and a pole there's a row of triagles. What is this shape called?!

[novembermond]

watching this ep was so much fun. XD

aand that song was such a banger! couldn't stop humming it!

and then we finally got an after credits scene, too!

what are the chances the kids got turned into the rabbit and the cicada in the living room?
I still hope Pietro is really brainwashed x-men Pietro what's the point of kickstarting a multiverse and then not using it like that?

just had a realization

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Hayward said they're about to launch and normally I wouldn't worry about that (seeing how Monica couldn't get inside the Hex with a space rover), but I wonder how well/long Wanda can keep the Hex up when she's outside of it (as indicated by the change in aspect ratio when she entered Agatha's lair).