Falcon and Winter Soldier episode 5!
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Truth - Sam Wilson, Bucky Barnes, Baron Zemo, John Walker, and Karli Morgenthau must all deal with the fall out from their actions.
Favorite moment?
Sam Bucky v Walker fight (RIP wings)
3 (23.1%)
When the three of them went *splat* at the end of the fight
2 (15.4%)
Bucky taking Zemo in alive and handing him over to The Raft.
4 (30.8%)
Bucky semi making up with Wakanda and immediately asking for a favor.
2 (15.4%)
That tough, tough convo between Sam and Isaiah
8 (61.5%)
Sam building community action to save the boat!
7 (53.8%)
Bucky and Sam (and et al) fixing the boat.
10 (76.9%)
soft (tm) Bucky learning, growing, and flirting with both Wilsons
6 (46.2%)
Walker going to comfort Hoskin's family
0 (0.0%)
Playing catch with the shield to avoid eye contact while having a heart to heart
8 (61.5%)
Sexy, sweaty Sam workout montage!!!!!
8 (61.5%)
Karli gathering her forces.
0 (0.0%)
Walker's midcredit welding scene
0 (0.0%)
What does it take to be Captain America? (wrong answers only)
What does it take to be Captain America? (real answers only)
Current positive feels for the Flag Smashers?
Mean: 5.00 Median: 4.5 Std. Dev 2.52
| 1 | 2 (16.7%) | |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 3 | 1 (8.3%) | |
| 4 | 3 (25.0%) | |
| 5 | 1 (8.3%) | |
| 6 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 7 | 3 (25.0%) | |
| 8 | 1 (8.3%) | |
| 9 | 1 (8.3%) | |
| 10 | 0 (0.0%) |
What are you hoping to see in the finale? Any predictions?
How excited are you to see what's in the box?
Mean: 9.18 Median: 10 Std. Dev 1.53
| 1 | 0 (0.0%) | |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 3 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 4 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 5 | 1 (9.1%) | |
| 6 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 7 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 8 | 2 (18.2%) | |
| 9 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 10 | 8 (72.7%) |
Do any of y'all have a favorite related playlist? I only really use Spotify, so sorry for not branching out, and I also make no promises about good taste.
Shameless self promotion: a Bucky playlist because he's got a Metal Arm and a Can-Do Attitude!
Bucky only likes music from the 40s (I have not fact checked this decade, but some great songs regardless)
A loooooong Sam Wilson playlist
Sambucky are a married old couple argue with a wall for the shippers.
There was a great song in this episode, but I don't remember if we really got music on the other eps for someone to put all the show soundtrack songs together? I'll try to check it out while I'm at work today.
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Date: 2021-04-17 01:21 am (UTC)"Listen, it was the heat of the battle" says Sam and for a moment I was so disappointed in him. Until I noticed that he was just trying to de-escalate, then I was so proud of him again. He's just too good for this world.
Bucky manages to get the gun from Walker, good. Although I was still worried about it, because it was still near.
"Why are you making me do this?" JFC, Walker, why is accepting that you're wrong so hard for you?! Then he throws Bucky and I was worried he'd been zapped by his own arm. Maybe he really has been, but it's easier for a super soldier to recover from that?
I thought Walker was choking Sam, but he's ripping his wings off. Ouch! Before attempting the shield-smash move again, holy shit!
Walker might be a super soldier, but he did get his arm broken when Sam took the shield. Oh dear, is that schadenfreude I'm feeling?
While I love that Sam takes the shield with him (accepting Steve's choice, oooh), leaving his wings behind makes me sad.
Hmph, as much as I hate Walker, he does raise a good argument by pointing out that he lived by the government's mandates. Because if they don't want people to do the thing he's done, those perpetrators shouldn't get off with just a slap on the wrist.
But if these boots weren't made for walking, why are you wearing them anyway? Who is Val? Except someone up to no good, apparently. Introducing a new character this late is a bit suspicious. Could she be the Power Broker?
Have I mentioned that I hate when stories undo previous happy (or at least not as tragic) endings? Because in Age of Ultron it looked like the "meteor" fragment landed in the sea (which, I grant you, could have caused a tsunami). That vagueness makes for a nice ending because you can tell yourself that not too many people were hurt or killed. Until the next story comes along and ruins it. Gah, why did they have to have that Civil War?!
So Zemo stands at the Sokovia memorial by a crater. I wonder if this bit of land really still is Sokovia. Did no one want it because it's just a crater? And who manages a country with no population?
Well, yay for Zemo having decided not to kill Bucky!
Again Zemo wants to die and again he doesn't get his wish. Oh no, not the Raft! I have a bad feeling about this. Why can't they just imprison him in Wakanda, where they can have a direct eye on him?
Zemo says he holds no grudge, but who knows. Do you think killing Bucky will be an option again?
Aw, Sarah packed food for 2 of her boys' classmates too. Goodness seems to run in the family. Other people owe Sarah and Sam's parents! Yay for the parents' goodness paying off for Sam & Sarah!
Oh, thank fuck for Bucky turning up wherever it is that Sam lives (Was something more specific than the state ever mentioned?)! They're supposed to become friends, dammit, so I need them in the same place.
Bucky said he just wanted to bring Sam the case, but then he asks if he can help with the ship. He totally missed his new BFF!
Flirting with Sarah, OMG! Heeeeee.
Looks like Lemar's sister doesn't like Walker very much. I wonder if she knew what kind of person he is before the murder video got out.
Argh, Sharon has a job for Batroc! She can still be a secret goodie! Come on, do it for me and my spy-loving heart!
Bucky slept on the couch! I hope this means he's getting better.
Bucky greets Sarah, Sam gives him a disapproving look. Ahaha, reminds me of Doctor Who, when Captain Jack had to point out that he was just saying hello.
I love Sarah shooing them away from the waterpump. Ah, men thinking they're qualified/obligated to do something just because they're men.
Bucky is talking about his feelings, niiice! But how heartbreaking that a thing is the closest to a family that he has left.
Oh no, did Sam just advise Bucky to tell his old restaurant friend how his son was killed? Brutal. Although I suspect the story will make the man appreciate the revelation.
Ugh, guys, stop being not a team!
Woooo, training montage! We're witnessing history, Sam is becoming Captain America.
Okay, how about this: Sharon is still one of the good guys, but on the more extreme end. The Flag Smashers have a good cause, which is why she helps them - even though it's murder. But the GRC seem to be objectively bad people, so it would be acceptable (like assassinating a dictator).
I've never heard French spoken as harshly as Karli does.
"You have to consider the optics" says the India representative and I wonder if she's just being shallow or trying to present the argument that would work for someone. Nah, she seems to reason with the assholes on their level. So we've established that there are at least 2 people there who aren't horrible, so I hope what Karli has planned isn't indiscriminate murder.
Aw, come on, you're not gonna show us what's in the case? It's gotta be a Captain America suit. Made with Vibranium fibers, so that Sam gets at least some of the advantages he lacks by not being a super soldier. And what if Wakanda signed over the shield to him? Was that the favor Bucky asked for? Would be one hell of a PR opportunity for the new new Captain America. First Cap gave him the shield and then the makers of its metal did too, that's gotta make Americans accept him in this role, right?
Wow, does Walker have entitlement issues or what?! But LOL at his shield out ofinferior metal. Can't wait for him to get owned with the real shield.
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Date: 2021-04-18 05:23 pm (UTC)I'm glad I didn't go too nuts trying to figure out the promised cameo here, because Val didn't really cause much of an impression. She's got to be the Power Broker, right? I didn't realize that Sharon had facilitated the Bartoc meetup until someone else pointed it out. I mean whatever Sharon is up to probably sets up Hawkeye, right?
Bucky and Sarah are too cute! I loved it. Bucky is miles away from that awkward self puppet from the first episode. And Sarah gets to flirt with anyone she dang well wants to, Sam! I still kind of want a team up with the two of them. Sarah is the boss, obviously. : )
Beardy white politician had better get punched in the face at some point. He took no responsibility for Walker. I mean the GRC are bad, and I want them to suck it, but I don't really want a massacre making it harder to sympathize with the very real people who are suffering that the Flag Smashers were supposed to be helping. I was displeased with the analog of "One World" = "Hail Hydra" though I guess the episode showed us two examples of community building. Sam's boat building and Karli's vengeance planning.
I WANTED THE NEW UNIFORM SO BAD! GOD I HOPE ITS PRETTY! AND I WANT A NEW REDWING!!!!
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Date: 2021-04-19 05:37 pm (UTC)YESSSSSS
And as far as I'm concerned, it'll be 100% custom made by Shuri :D Who for once doesn't get stuck with another hapless white dude for her to save hee.
though I guess the episode showed us two examples of community building. Sam's boat building and Karli's vengeance planning.
Exactly! I am sad that we've been seeing the displaced through Karli's pov for the most part, though thankfully Sam's been showing a different side to it. Karli's dehumanizing anyone that isn't part of the displaced, and is fully onboard the murder train now. Sorry, but zero sympathy.
(I'm actually hoping the long haired dude we've seen with Karli comes to his senses and tries to stop her. I'd much rather see his story continued.)
Hopefully once Sam takes on the mantle of Captain America he can speak out about this stuff, and try his best to help build bridges and get help to where it needs to go.
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Date: 2021-04-20 01:22 am (UTC)WHOA! I totally forgot that with the Captain-America title Sam also gets opinion-swaying powers! So we wouldn't even need long-haired dude to turn again (except maybe for LHD's own sake)! Ooh, this is gonna be good!
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Date: 2021-04-20 06:13 am (UTC)ESPECIALLY since he's not relying on the suits to ~grant him the title~. Steve gave him the shield, and Bucky will be standing besides him. Let the story slip, and that coupled with the formally appointed soldier boy turning murder hobo and smearing the shield with blood in public? As far as optics go, Sam will be untouchable, and able to stand somewhat separate from the government. A bridge, if you will.
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Date: 2021-04-20 07:10 pm (UTC)Karli needs to spend some time on The Raft in the cell next to Zemo and may they irritate (and learn from) each other for the next many years.
I totes want a CNN broadcasted 'Everybody Needs to Get Their Shit Together' message from Sam. Tell 'em what's what, Sam.
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Date: 2021-04-20 01:14 am (UTC)I'm also glad I didn't obsess over the cameo either - learned something from WandaVision, yay!
I probably only knew that Sharon called Batroc because I always watch with subtitles.
It was so nice to see Bucky happy. What an adorable smile he has! If there's a 2nd season, I hope we'll see that fun trio again. Maybe Bucky & Sarah actually do become a couple. Having a family could be good for his mental health.
I know, right?!
I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY LEFT US HANGING RE. THE CASE CONTENTS! Aw, a new Redwing would be nice too.
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Date: 2021-04-20 07:06 pm (UTC)Ah, I'm getting nervous about this last episode! I hope they stick the landing. *fingers crossed*
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Date: 2021-04-21 02:34 am (UTC)In the comics Val has a long history but is probably most important as a SHIELD agent who eventually leaves to becomes Madame Hydra, and had a big role in Secret Invasion, which is one of the phase 4 planned tv series. I kind of hope that means she's the power broker rather than bringing back still yet more Hydra, though.