Falcon and Winter Soldier episode 6!
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One World, One People - As the Flag Smashers escalate their efforts, Sam and Bucky take action.
Favorite moment? (There are so many!)
Sam Captain America reveal and Batroc fight
5 (29.4%)
Bucky works with Sharon and talks to Karli
3 (17.6%)
REDWING IS BACK!!!!!
4 (23.5%)
Sam saves the helicopter cops, gets first ovation
9 (52.9%)
Flag Smashers vs Walker
0 (0.0%)
Walker tries to save the hostage truck
2 (11.8%)
Sam does save the hostage truck. "That's the Black Falcon! Naw that's Captain America!"
8 (47.1%)
Sharon shows even more of her true colors and kills Batroc
2 (11.8%)
Bucky proves he can work a smart phone and captures the Flag Smashers.
8 (47.1%)
Sam won't fight her, but Karli dies anyway
1 (5.9%)
Sam talks truth and gets his Heroic Speech
9 (52.9%)
Effing Zemo anyway. RIP Flag Smashers.
5 (29.4%)
Bucky makes amends.
11 (64.7%)
Sam takes Isaiah to the museum
11 (64.7%)
Family BBQ! (Bucky is such a dork.)
12 (70.6%)
Sharon gets her pardon and we get our season 2 setup?
3 (17.6%)
On a scale of 1-10, how good does Sam look in the new uniform?
Favorite secondary character?
Joaquin Torres
4 (25.0%)
Dr. Christina Raynor
1 (6.2%)
Karli Morgenthau
2 (12.5%)
Baron Zemo
3 (18.8%)
Sharon Carter
2 (12.5%)
John Walker
2 (12.5%)
Isaiah Bradley
11 (68.8%)
Sarah Wilson
10 (62.5%)
someone else?
0 (0.0%)
Final positive feels for the Flag Smashers?
Mean: 6.06 Median: 6 Std. Dev 2.60
| 1 | 1 (5.9%) | |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 3 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 4 | 3 (17.6%) | |
| 5 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 6 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 7 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 8 | 4 (23.5%) | |
| 9 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 10 | 2 (11.8%) |
Final positive feels for John Walker?
Mean: 3.88 Median: 4 Std. Dev 1.68
| 1 | 1 (5.9%) | |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 3 (17.6%) | |
| 3 | 4 (23.5%) | |
| 4 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 5 | 5 (29.4%) | |
| 6 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 7 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 8 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 9 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 10 | 0 (0.0%) |
We've seen all 6 episodes, what do you think?
Mean: 7.41 Median: 7 Std. Dev 2.20
| 1 | 0 (0.0%) | |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | 0 (0.0%) | |
| 3 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 4 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 5 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 6 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 7 | 4 (23.5%) | |
| 8 | 2 (11.8%) | |
| 9 | 1 (5.9%) | |
| 10 | 5 (29.4%) |
Any final thoughts?
Did Sharon seriously use a chemical attack on that guy in the van? His skin did not look good. If she's not an imposter than I am totally done that character. She's got to be a pod person, right?
All right. Walker made one good choice in six episodes. He should have been prosecuted for the murder he committed, but heroes give second chances. That's kind of their thing. I wonder what Val has up her sleeve for him?
Sam's speech, dear lord, that was so good. "The only power I have is that I believe we can do better." Loved it. Every bit of it. I have no questions, only gooey amounts of love.
I loved that it ended with a community BBQ!
Please react, question, discuss, and capslock in the comments. Play nice and be aware that not everyone wants spoilers for future episodes or have read/watched the same articles and interviews.
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Date: 2021-04-23 05:28 pm (UTC)And with mercury of all things! That honestly made me feel personally attacked.
Maybe I'm just being desperate, but I thought the same thing. Hey, I mean, the secret invasion is coming up, so it could make sense, right?
Argh, Walker! Okay, we haven't seen that much, but it looks as if he managed image rehab and I hate it.
Yes to Sam's speech and the community BBQ!
Such a good episode!!! More later, when I've finished my review.
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Date: 2021-04-24 02:58 am (UTC)I don't care of the image rehab either. I thought he showed some understanding, maybe some shame while Sam was doing his Hero Speech, but without actual words or actions showing his remorse, I am not interested in any redemption arc.
I am not particularly good at objective media review, but I've seen some takes on tumblr. Some I like, some I don't particularly find very nuanced. For me, this series is great and I'm going to rewatch the shit out it!
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Date: 2021-04-25 06:22 am (UTC)Ah, but what's the fun in objective reviews?! It's gotta be all flailing and the occasional complaints and wild speculation, wooo! XD
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Date: 2021-04-24 03:00 am (UTC)I want a movie! And I want more merch! And I want more media tours! And I want Misty Knight!
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Date: 2021-04-25 06:24 am (UTC)Sooo, the new suit - overall yes, but 2 nos: I've never been a fan of shoulder pads and that headpiece weirds me out. I know, cutouts are trendy, but it just looks weird to have so much of his head covered, but leave the top open. That it's connected to the rest of the suit seems to restrict Sam's head movements a bit.
Sam embraces his new title! \o/
Ahaha, even that politics guy thinks old Cap is on the moon. Would be hilarious if it turned out that Steve really is in space. Maybe on the same ship as Fury.
Okay, but really, how did a such a well-known person as Steve manage to live undisturbed for decades? Especially since he was with Peggy! It's just a suspicious combo. Did she just claim she met someone who happens to look like Steve and that's why she fell in love with him? And what alias did he use, Roger Stevens?
I like Bucky using his assassin experience to try to talk Karli out of murdering the GRC people.
Sharon offed one of the Flag Smashers with mercury vapor and I can't help take that personally. In WandaVision we wanted Quicksilver, but didn't really get him (at least that's what they claim), in F&WS nobody asked for any quicksilver, but we get a face-melting (I was happier before I noticed that, ew) chemical weapon anyway.
...Wait a fucking minute! Sharon's victim's name was Lennox. I thought I was just seeing things because I'm biased, but they put a Lennox and quicksilver together, that can't just be a coincidence! That has to be some sort of reference to X-Men. I mean, Quicksilver's best scene was set to a Eurythmics (Annie Lennox) song. Am I reaching? Is this what going nuts feels like?
I'm very amused by Batroc kicking a chair against the approaching shield. That chair seems to have survived, huh.
Whoa, Batroc dares to do a 3-point landing. Excuse me, Mr. Villain, this is not for you!
Huh, what a relief that the Flag Smashers didn't mean to kill the GRC people. But disrupting voting is still creepily close to real life. Though at least the Flag Smashers have a worthy cause.
Dovich and Karli's other disciples still don't like the group's new tactics, but still nobody says anything. Ugh, come on, guys.
I thought Sam rescuing the officers from their helicopter was cool, but that was quickly outdone by Sam shielding the officer and himself with his wings & the shield from the crashing heli. Fuck yeah!
Bucky shows us how to get a vehicle past one of those street barriers, oh no. Cool stunt though.
Smart move by Karli to distract him by giving him people to rescue. Aw, someone thanks Bucky.
"Boy, you just earned this ass whooping!" XD
Love Sam's teamwork with the aviation-trained Philippines representative!
Oh wow, Walker actually did something right and decided to rescue the truck full of hostages from falling into the building pit instead of going after Karli! And I thought he'd get into Sam & Bucky's way!
I thought the truck's back wheels got caught on a beam, but no, it's new Cap to the rescue - Bucky smiles, people cheer and one guy in the crowd acknowledges him as Captain America. Fuck yeah!
And then Karli confirms that Sharon is the Power Broker. I really expected better from the woman who quoted her aunt's "plant yourself like a tree" line. Yeah, I know, you can't expect people to be like their relatives. On the other hand, maybe it's just an imposter! Hope springs eternal.
Haha, Bucky caught Flag Smashers via their app! Gotta love it.
Meh, Karli really lost it. She keeps provoking Sam, but his refusal to fight her only provokes her into pointing a gun at him. Would she really have shot or do I have to be grateful to Sharon the Power Broker for saving Sam's life? I'm glad she was helpful to Sam & Bucky, but why? What are her goals?? She still has to have some sort of ideology.
That reporter asking what Sam's title is now! Captain Falcon, heh. Allow me to suggest Captain Samerica. :oP
Sam actually invokes the Your Terrorists Are Our Freedom Fighters trope. Aw yeah, he's talking with the GRC people and the news crews are there to capture it. There we have Sam using his opinion-swaying powers!
I wish I knew what the Indian representative is trying to say. Settlements happened 5 years ago and she asks if it's fair for governments to have to support those people. I remember her as being supportive in the previous episode, so that's the first thing that confused me. And why would a government that invited people just stop supporting them? ...Okay, never mind, just remembered the UK's Windrush scandal. Though at least that happened decades later.
"I'm a black man carrying the stars and stripes - what don't I understand?" Right in the feels! Looks like it hit Bucky there too.
"The only power I have is that I believe we can do better." ♥
Walker comes off as likable here, which weirds me out so much. What, he did one thing right and we're supposed to forgive him? Or is that supposed to demonstrate once again how fucked up the system is?
"Nice job, Cap." N'aaaaawwwww! ♥
Holy shit, I knew the Raft wasn't a safe enough place for Zemo! Of course he'd still be able to scheme from there. And that's one hell of a loyal butler, if he'll do the murdering for you!
I'm confused by the radio report Zemo listens to. It says 4 Flag Smashers were killed in the truck bomb, but there were only 3 there. The last one was presumably just getting fished out of the river by Sam. So is that one still alive or not?
Is Val supposed to be annoying?
She says that things are about to get weird and I can only assume that this is a reference to the Secret Invasion. The thought of that show makes me a bit anxious. The mindfucking paranoia! And I'm already speculating, argh! Curse you, MCU and your unbearable vastness!
Aw, look at how proud Mrs. Walker is of her still-a-killer-for-no-good-reason husband, it's almost cute. I wonder what her first name is. Until I find out, I shall think of her as Padmé.
I'm disappointed that we are shown only one case of Bucky getting all the names off his list. While I'm glad that he is making progress, off-camera progress is very unsatisfying! Is he completely fine now or is he only done with Dr. Raynor, because he finished his list?
I'm glad that we see Mr. Nakajima in the restaurant, so I guess from that we can infer that Bucky's confession did help him or at least didn't get him all depressed.
And can I assume that look between Leah and Bucky was a goodbye? Or was she telling Bucky with that that Mr. Nakajima is okay?
Ha, I was too distracted by Isaiah handling the kohlrabi that I failed to catch what he was saying about the GRC at first.
I'm torn between moved and confused. Isaiah gets acknowledged in the Captain-America exhibition, yay. But didn't he want to remain anonymous?!
Hee, Bucky being silly with the kids! He should just move down there.
"Captain America and the Winter Soldier" awwww! But what does that mean for Bucky? That he's still not okay? That his hero journey isn't finished yet?
Oh shit, Sharon gets back into her old job.
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Date: 2021-04-29 03:40 pm (UTC)Is this what going nuts feels like? - Maybe, but I am here with the popcorn for all the conspiracy theories! : )
Is Val supposed to be annoying? - IDK, but wow I can't stand the scenery chewing. At least not like that. I think I would enjoy watching Bucky and Sam being irritated by her!
Until I find out, I shall think of her as Padmé. - I'm actually just doing a rewatch and finished Revenge, so my brain immediately blurted out a TOO SOON and I had to wtf it, because it's been 15 years! Yeah, she didn't get anything to do except be a cheering cardboard cutout for Walker. I wonder what he would have done if literally any of his support system had stood up to him to tell him he did wrong.
But didn't he want to remain anonymous?! - I saw somebody else say that since he was legally declared dead, he must have been living under an fake name. So as long as they don't have any recent pics of him, he'd be able to keep on keepin' on for as long as he cared to.
I don't think they'll ever give Bucky another like official superhero name. White Wolf in the comics is somebody else who was not on the up and up. I don't think he has to constantly see himself as irredeemable (that BBQ showed he's come a long way and I WILL NEVER BE OVER HOW DORKY HE IS) but I don't think he can ever forget either, and maybe he thinks the victims of the Soldier should be remembered too.
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Date: 2021-05-02 05:59 pm (UTC)Hehe, I'd enjoy watching Bucky and Sam being irritated by Val too!
Oooh, interesting question. Hopefully we'll see that in the future (and it'll go better for Mrs. Walker than for Padmé)
Ah, thanks for the explanation about Isaiah.
I found this interview where Malcolm Spellman talks about "White Wolf" actually having been included in the title card at one point!