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EPISODE 1.8: PREVIOUSLY ON

Expect HEAVY SPOILERS FOR ALL WANDAVISION EPISODES up until this point, as well as all other MCU properties currently released!

Date: 2021-02-26 11:15 am (UTC)
fueschgast: (reaction: :O (Nemo))
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
OMG, that episode hurt so much! I want to talk about it, but first I need to make my notes into sentences. I don't know how I'm supposed to do that - I'm too busy drowing in feelings, send help.

Date: 2021-02-26 11:24 am (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (Default)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
Isn't that a good question! My 2 ideas are:

1. Hayward was lying, because apparently he loves to do that. He put together a misleading video and lied to the team to make Wanda look like a villain.

or

2. As Wanda conjured up Vision, his body parts vanished from the lab and either Hayward only suspected Wanda or it was apparent from a red glow around the body parts.

Date: 2021-02-26 11:47 am (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (WandaVision)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
No such footage, I just checked episode 5. Maybe you're getting it mixed up with Wanda dragging out the armed drone?

Date: 2021-02-26 03:19 pm (UTC)
tamoline: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tamoline
Did you watch the mid-credits scene? After that, I'm fairly sure it's option 1, since, well.

Date: 2021-02-26 03:41 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (Default)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
Yeah, I've seen it. Needed to rewatch it for certainty.
Edited (Past tense tried to escape me.) Date: 2021-02-26 03:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2021-02-26 05:22 pm (UTC)
readera: a cup of tea with an open book behind it (Default)
From: [personal profile] readera
My guess is that Hayward is pulling a Mysterio . Lie & deepfake some footage for 'proof'

Date: 2021-02-26 03:59 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (WandaVision)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
I so desperately wanted Agatha to be good, but couldn't find any innocent explanation for her sucking the energy from the other witches *sigh*.
What's with the crown-like energy on Agatha's mom's head? Is she the queen of all witches or something?

Just after talking about fake Pietro
, Agatha moves on to the topic of mind control. So I guess at least we're still on track for X-Men!Peter. Unless "crystalline possession" means something other than my first guess. There was no crystal in Agatha's demonstration of mind control, so at first I thought maybe one is necessary for stronger psyches or whatever. But maybe crystalline possession means you put something mind-like in a crystal that's turned into a human form? God, I hope not, don't let this Pietro be just stunt casting!

It hurts so much that Agatha is only after Wanda's magic. Making her live through her trauma again, what a psycho witch. Though it's nice to see a flashback to Wanda's family when it was still whole.
So... what, did Wanda magically disable the bomb or not?

WHOA, Wanda saw her powerful future self in the light of the Mind Stone! Complete with the crown thingy. So there is an in-story reason for her Halloween costume!

For a flashback episode this is really good! Because we're getting to see all the things we haven't yet. The problem with these ensemble movies is that they don't have enough time for all their characters. That conversation about Pietro's death really should have been in Civil War.

OMG, Wanda only wanted a funeral for Vision!
Hayward shows Wanda how his scientists are taking Vision apart. JFC, did he ever at any point consider Vision a person and that these are not just machine parts but mangled remains and you can't just spring that view on a loved one?! Or does he have such disrespect for Wanda, does he really consider her just a terrorist? What a humongous dick.
Holy shit, Hayward planted the idea of bringing Vision back to life!
"I can't feel you." Is this episode trying to find out how many times it can rip our hearts out?

OMG, that's their piece of land! And I thought it couldn't get any more painful! Is this is where Wanda meant to bury Vision?
Whoooaaa, I didn't expect the Hex to have been such a spontaneous creation.

The Minimoffs are still there! Ooh, and we get to see Agatha's outfit. But where are Monica and Pietro?
The Scarlet Witch! I bet Wanda isn't really dangerous, that's just how Agatha feels about Wanda because she's discovered someone more powerful than her. And does the crown thingy only symbolize Wanda's superiority or does it make her the actual witch queen or something?

Ghostly white Vision, way to be creepy! For a moment I thought they made another Vision, but from what Hayward said it's clear that this is Vision's original body. Oh, look who's a lying liar and disregarding Vision's will!

Hey... Wanda has the power of the Mind Stone and during Vision's manifestation the energy was Mind-Stone-yellow, so we can assume that this is actual Vision's consciousness. But what happens if the Hex falls apart? Would that be the end of the real Vision's body? Would Wanda be able to transfer his mind into white Vision?

My god, this episode was so emotionally exhausting! Now this show owes us a full-on happy ending. The kids survive, Vision survives, Westview stays shiny and so Wanda & co. lived happily ever after.

But I really can't see how this story can be resolved in a satisfying way in just 1 episode. I have all my fingers and toes crossed that the WV Twitter didn't just awkwardly phrase that tweet, but that there are actually 2 more episodes.

Date: 2021-02-28 02:33 am (UTC)
peaked: CINDY. (Default)
From: [personal profile] peaked
I definitely want to hope that Evan being cast as Pietro in this series is a gentle introduction of X-Men into the MCU. Can you imagine? Agatha plucks Peter up from the Multiverse, shoves him in here and brainwashes him? Amazing and sinister, and something that really goes in line with Wanda controlling the citizens of Westview. (I have really enjoyed Evan in this series so I can only hope he can stick around.)

I definitely don't think Hayward gave an ounce of a fuck about whether or not Wanda would be distressed at seeing Vision dismantled. I wouldn't be surprised if he hoped for it. I think it was a manipulation tactic. He said something to her that I can't remember verbatim that heavily implied he knew she was capable of resurrecting him. I felt he planted that idea in her head and that he allowed her to see Vision because she could've been a clue to reactivating him again. I feel like he never does anything without a selfish intention. He's kept Monica as far away from his power seat as much as possible because he knows she can usurp him from being the captain of the SWORD ship, and I definitely think he knows that Wanda is a key player in reactivating "the Vision". (And turns out, she is!)

From your keyboard to god's ears, PLEASE LET US HAVE A TENTH EPISODE. Marvel never does anything by accident. (Amazing pick up.)

Date: 2021-03-02 08:28 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (WandaVision)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
All that waiting for answers about Peter is making my imagination run wild. What if Agatha doesn't know or can't trace back out of which dimension she picked Peter and this sends him on an interdimensional odyssey in the Dr. Strange movie? Ooh, it would be like Sliders, but way more consistent and without stupid Kromags. And obviously he'd have to be in the Spider-Man movie too, because you never can't have enough Peters! Quicksilver!Peter would introduce himself and everyone would mistake him for another Spidey.

Ah, dammit, I haven't even thought about Hayward's future, but now you got my hopes up that Monica will replace him! The more I think about what still needs to happen, the less I believe a lone episode can do each of the characters justice.

Date: 2021-02-26 05:21 pm (UTC)
readera: a cup of tea with an open book behind it (Default)
From: [personal profile] readera
I watched it with my so last night & I have so many feelings.

Her family is so cute! Tv night + english night. 💖
I love that Wanda is a little nerd & knows what episode she wants to rewatch. I saw the theory way back when this first started that the sitcom set up was due to a love of old reruns in her childhood, so I'm glad to see that confirmed.

Soo if Wanda got her powers directly from an infinity stone, did Pietro get them the same way? Or did he get them from her? I wish we could have more Pietro, or Fake Pietro this episode. Nothing with him or Monica. 😢

Wanda continues to be nerdy & comfort watch malcom in the middle at the avengers compound. 💖

Also I was kinda expecting tony stark to be mentioned giving up Vison to Sword since he made JARVIS & Ultron. But it never came up.

Agatha being the evil is so much fun. I hate what she is doing to wanda & co. But she is my witch of childhood dreams. And I want more Agatha after this series.

Hayward is such a jerk.
He completely blind sides her with them taking apart Visions body. I found them pulling him apart & ripping wires so violating & unnecessary. Was he trying to trigger her into an episode? Like how did you think this was a good idea.

Date: 2021-02-27 08:25 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (WandaVision)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
Yes, what an adorable family that was! And it's so nice to have TV-loving characters on TV.

Interesting idea about real Pietro's powers! But I think (not sure, will need to rewatch) Wanda was put into isolation right after interacting with the Mind Stone, so I guess she didn't see Pietro again until after he was made to touch the Stone too. Maybe he survived that because he's her twin, that her being the Scarlet Witch is in part genetic and he was protected by having some of those genes too.

I hope we'll see Agatha develop some respect for Wanda, so that she can become a proper mentor. She doesn't have to be all good now, but I don't want her to be a full-on villain either. I'd love her and Wanda to have a complicated friendship à la Charles/Erik!

Date: 2021-03-02 08:36 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (Default)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
Also I was kinda expecting tony stark to be mentioned giving up Vison to Sword since he made JARVIS & Ultron. But it never came up.

Maybe they automatically belong to SWORD because of the Sokovia Accords.

Date: 2021-02-27 03:51 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (WandaVision)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
I thought Agatha's flashback demeanor was supposed to show us that she's psycho. She only pretends to be normal when there's a chance people will believe it.

Ooh, I've seen that video! Glad I came across it, because I'm a bit too tone deaf to notice things like that by myself.

Date: 2021-02-28 02:39 am (UTC)
peaked: AGNES WHO ISN'T AGATHA. (pic#14668534)
From: [personal profile] peaked
I definitely hope we get more backstory on Agatha. I wonder if she played the weak, demure witch with her coven and pretended that the dark magic they were accusing of was a "mistake" while manipulating the rest of her coven. I have a feeling they kind of viewed her as the weakling?

That composer video is AMAZING. Thank you so much for sharing.

Date: 2021-03-02 11:29 pm (UTC)
readera: a cup of tea with an open book behind it (Default)
From: [personal profile] readera
I saw that video and loved it! I was hoping someone would analyze the music after the series was over. I'm thrilled to see its from the composer! 😁💖
Edited Date: 2021-03-02 11:31 pm (UTC)

some more thoughts

Date: 2021-02-27 10:05 pm (UTC)
fueschgast: Darcy watching a CRT TV that shows Pietro at Wanda's door. (WandaVision)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
If Wanda really stopped that bomb from going off, it would mean she had some powers from birth and that's why the Mind Stone made her more powerful instead of killing her like the other test subjects. Does that mean witches are mutants? Is it a mutation in the X chromosome and only those who have 2 can be witches?

Would be cool if in the next episode Wanda saw Pietro approaching and thought he was about to attack, but it turns out Monica saw the purple glow of Agatha's mind control on him, and then Vision had arrived and debrainwashed Pietro. And then the only missing character would be Darcy, who'll probably only arrive when all the cool stuff has already happened. Which I guess is okay, since she doesn't have superpowers and so it'll be safer for her to be far away. No, wait, there's still Jimmy. I can't imagine he'll get anything to do before the end (Unless... Can anyone think of any good reason for him to go back to SWORD's camp?), which would be a shame.

Speaking of Monica seeing various types of energy: What if there's another aura around Pietro? If he's from another dimension, maybe that leaves a distinctive trace (like Void Stuff).

And now a cracktastic idea about next week: After a normal-length episode we get the credits and then a mid-credits scene that's also episode length.

theories

Date: 2021-03-01 09:28 pm (UTC)
ironymaiden: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ironymaiden
Hayward was trying to goad Wanda into taking action.

Bettany's comments about wanting to work with the actor all of his life is a reference to doing scenes with himself as the Project Cataract Vision.

How does time work???

Date: 2021-03-03 12:33 am (UTC)
fueschgast: Image in the style of Potter Puppet Pals: the Doctor hugging the TARDIS, hearts floating above them. (Doctor Who - TARDIS)
From: [personal profile] fueschgast
I'm still trying to figure out how time works inside the Hex. I thought time of day was more or less parallel to the outside and that there was one dacade per sitcom episode, and one sitcom episode per day, but now I looked deeper into that and am confused.

Day 1 started out in the 50s and, as far as we know, the sitcom is broadcast live.

I assume it's day 2 when Jimmy and Monica arrive outside Westview, Monica is sucked in, Hayward sets up the base.

ETA: Moved Darcy's bit to the next day. I shouldn't just have skimmed through the episodes. Only noticed while taking caps that it says "24 hours later" when Darcy is on her way to the base.

Day 3:
Darcy picks up the first episode's signal. Wanda probably needed a day 2 days to reorient herself to get the sitcom going.
Still on day 3 (Jimmy speaks of having met Monica the day before) Darcy and Jimmy spot "Geraldine" in the 60s. Or maybe it is still the 50s, as Darcy says. That bit wasn't in the sitcom episode we got to see, so I'm confused. The decade hopping (which interestingly reminds me of some X-Men movies) seemed to happen daily/between every episode. But Darcy says that Wanda doing the dishes "by her count happens once an episode", so she's seen at least 2 episodes. Thus there have been at least 2 episodes set in the same decade.
Darcy says she has an idea and we cut to outside of a tent. I think we can assume that it's still the evening (or morning?) of day 3 (We can indeed, because before they went outside, Agent Beekeeper went into the sewers and only emerged after the contact scene) when she and Jimmy try to contact Wanda. For Wanda it's daytime in the 60s. And there were 3 episodes in one day.

Then I guess it's day 4 and the 70s: It's day when Wanda expels Monica from the Hex, but outside of it it's night.

It's daytime in the real world, so presumably it's day 5 when the 80s episode happens and Hayward briefs the team. He says the footage of Wanda in the SWORD HQ is from 9 days ago, but that happened on day 1. Is Hayward lying again and what would be the point? Or have there really been 5 more days in between? Were they spread out between the days we've seen or did all of them happen between the creation of the Hex and Jimmy & Monica arriving (which would make that one day 7)? How often would one check on a protected witness? Did Wanda spend a whole week in the 50s? But if the sitcom was broadcast live, that means that the first episode wasn't the first.
Also on day 5: Wanda deals with the armed drone during daytime, but outside of the Hex it's night.

To continue with the previous counting, even though it might be wrong: Outside it still seems to be the night beween day 5 & 6 when Darcy, Jimmy & Monica desert and inside the Hex the noughties Halloween day and evening are happening.

On what might be day 6 or 11, time inside and outside the Hex seems to be the same. How nice and unconfusing! Although... I am a bit weirded out that we're about to have a 3rd episode set in the same day. First time flew, now it's slowed down.

(Not to mention that, if this Pietro is X-Men!Peter, he'll be from a different decade and therefore time travel would be involved too. Whaaaat?)
Edited Date: 2021-03-03 08:41 am (UTC)

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